Also, on a totally unrelated matter, what do you think about zines? Do you read them? Or do you prefer just to find stories on the Internet?
The reason I ask is that a couple of people have asked me to contribute stories for their zines, which is really nice. And I'm quite flattered. But I just don't know if I want to. Well, okay, so I go back and forth on it. On the one hand, it would be nice to see a story in print. But on the other hand, I like the immediacy of the Internet. (I'm all about the instant gratification!) And also, I like my stories to be free.
Blurry reply, may not be answering your question, may not make sense. Forgive me :)
I use to subscribe to zines in my older fandoms - mainly because fanfics were scattered about the net and hard to find. But I think SV is a really well organsised fandom for archives - gen, het, slash, by character - we've got them all. And in plenty. So personally, I'm not sure whether SV zines have the same niche/audience that zines have in other fandoms have. I've gotten all my SV fanfic from the Internet.
And I think it really depends on the zine itself - I mean, they do differ. In the SV fandom I've only really heard about the 'Chloe' one (and this is where my memory goes...name? Haven't a clue and on the tip of my tongue...Argh. Nevermind, it'll come to me...) I don't read much Chloe fic myself, but the word from friends who do read Chloe fic, is that it's a good one :) I don't really know of any other SV ones. I would hesitate if I wasn't on the same wavelength, but if you're on the same page I would go for it.
Because working where I do, I really understand the thrill of seeing your name in print. You don't get the instant gratification as you do on the net, but seeing your name in black and white is a whole different buzz on it's own. I would contribute just to experience that alone.
On the other hand, Re: 'stories for free'. *nods* You see, this is what I like about the fandom on the net above all else, in particular the SV fandom - it's kind of like community and contributing to it rather than a commercial supply and demand aspect.
But is there any reason why you can't contribute to both? Besides from generating twice the number of stories :) Hmm, I guess it would be more work, which is a minus.
And Zine fics tend to be more 'polished' (not saying you're slap-dash *g*, but it takes it from fandom fun to a different level to some degree.) Just got to ask yourself if you're up for the challenge :)
I don't know, hon. I guess you just got to do what you think is best for you :)
Blurry reply, may not be answering your question, may not make sense. Forgive me :)
Doll, you always make sense to me. :)
In fact, you laid out the pros and cons really well. I'll have to give it some thought. Although, really, my first impulse was that I'd rather post to the Internet. I just hate telling people no when they've been so nice. But I think I'm going to have to do that.
I think. (No, I'm not extremely indecisive. Why do you ask? *g*)
I love your sequel idea, and I'm so glad you're going with it! YAY!!!
Yeah, I think Clark would be able to keep the Lionel thing a secret from Lex if he decided to merely stay friends; it was just that I doubted he'd be able to do it if they got any closer. Whether or not we agree on Clark being a bad liar, we do see that Lex picks up on something and pushes at least a little. (The scene in "Ryan" comes to mind, when Lex asks Clark if he staged a single-handed prison break, to which Clark replies "I'm just lucky, I guess" or something along those lines, and Lex reacts in a VERY skeptical manner.) But if they're still just friends, I think Lex would let it go.
It's just that in a romantic relationship, I could see Lex getting idealistic and thinking that Clark should trust him if they are actually "together," that if Clark didn't, they should have just stayed friends and not gone the extra step. And so I could see him pushing, and the secret being so NEW to Clark...I just couldn't see them in a relationship together and it not coming out somehow. Especially with how...grabby and suspicious...Lex gets when it comes to his romantic relationships and his father.
But yeah, if Clark decides to just stay friends at first, that solves the problem. And so by the time they DO get together, the secret is old hat, and thus easy to keep.
So...yay sequel!!! I can't wait!!!
As to zines...I'm negitive on them. I'm all about the instant gratification, first of all, and I hate to wait around for the zine to come out. Also, I'm cheap, and I don't want to pay for it if its not a freebee. But the main thing, I think, is that most zine stories that I've read never become mainline topics for discussion. They don't go through the free for all of reactions that the normally posted stuff gets. For example, I don't think either Koi's "Mercy" or Te's "Past Grief" or Jenn's "Handful of Dust" would have gotten as much controversy, discussion, or general acclaim if they weren't easily available to everybody.
So, I just like open archives and no zines. But that's just me! ^_^
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Date: 2003-02-18 12:41 pm (UTC)Also, on a totally unrelated matter, what do you think about zines? Do you read them? Or do you prefer just to find stories on the Internet?
The reason I ask is that a couple of people have asked me to contribute stories for their zines, which is really nice. And I'm quite flattered. But I just don't know if I want to. Well, okay, so I go back and forth on it. On the one hand, it would be nice to see a story in print. But on the other hand, I like the immediacy of the Internet. (I'm all about the instant gratification!) And also, I like my stories to be free.
What's your take on the whole zine issue?
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Date: 2003-02-18 02:20 pm (UTC)I use to subscribe to zines in my older fandoms - mainly because fanfics were scattered about the net and hard to find. But I think SV is a really well organsised fandom for archives - gen, het, slash, by character - we've got them all. And in plenty. So personally, I'm not sure whether SV zines have the same niche/audience that zines have in other fandoms have. I've gotten all my SV fanfic from the Internet.
And I think it really depends on the zine itself - I mean, they do differ. In the SV fandom I've only really heard about the 'Chloe' one (and this is where my memory goes...name? Haven't a clue and on the tip of my tongue...Argh. Nevermind, it'll come to me...) I don't read much Chloe fic myself, but the word from friends who do read Chloe fic, is that it's a good one :) I don't really know of any other SV ones. I would hesitate if I wasn't on the same wavelength, but if you're on the same page I would go for it.
Because working where I do, I really understand the thrill of seeing your name in print. You don't get the instant gratification as you do on the net, but seeing your name in black and white is a whole different buzz on it's own. I would contribute just to experience that alone.
On the other hand, Re: 'stories for free'. *nods* You see, this is what I like about the fandom on the net above all else, in particular the SV fandom - it's kind of like community and contributing to it rather than a commercial supply and demand aspect.
But is there any reason why you can't contribute to both? Besides from generating twice the number of stories :) Hmm, I guess it would be more work, which is a minus.
And Zine fics tend to be more 'polished' (not saying you're slap-dash *g*, but it takes it from fandom fun to a different level to some degree.) Just got to ask yourself if you're up for the challenge :)
I don't know, hon. I guess you just got to do what you think is best for you :)
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Date: 2003-02-18 02:56 pm (UTC)Doll, you always make sense to me. :)
In fact, you laid out the pros and cons really well. I'll have to give it some thought. Although, really, my first impulse was that I'd rather post to the Internet. I just hate telling people no when they've been so nice. But I think I'm going to have to do that.
I think. (No, I'm not extremely indecisive. Why do you ask? *g*)
Yay!
Date: 2003-02-18 06:04 pm (UTC)Yeah, I think Clark would be able to keep the Lionel thing a secret from Lex if he decided to merely stay friends; it was just that I doubted he'd be able to do it if they got any closer. Whether or not we agree on Clark being a bad liar, we do see that Lex picks up on something and pushes at least a little. (The scene in "Ryan" comes to mind, when Lex asks Clark if he staged a single-handed prison break, to which Clark replies "I'm just lucky, I guess" or something along those lines, and Lex reacts in a VERY skeptical manner.) But if they're still just friends, I think Lex would let it go.
It's just that in a romantic relationship, I could see Lex getting idealistic and thinking that Clark should trust him if they are actually "together," that if Clark didn't, they should have just stayed friends and not gone the extra step. And so I could see him pushing, and the secret being so NEW to Clark...I just couldn't see them in a relationship together and it not coming out somehow. Especially with how...grabby and suspicious...Lex gets when it comes to his romantic relationships and his father.
But yeah, if Clark decides to just stay friends at first, that solves the problem. And so by the time they DO get together, the secret is old hat, and thus easy to keep.
So...yay sequel!!! I can't wait!!!
As to zines...I'm negitive on them. I'm all about the instant gratification, first of all, and I hate to wait around for the zine to come out. Also, I'm cheap, and I don't want to pay for it if its not a freebee. But the main thing, I think, is that most zine stories that I've read never become mainline topics for discussion. They don't go through the free for all of reactions that the normally posted stuff gets. For example, I don't think either Koi's "Mercy" or Te's "Past Grief" or Jenn's "Handful of Dust" would have gotten as much controversy, discussion, or general acclaim if they weren't easily available to everybody.
So, I just like open archives and no zines. But that's just me! ^_^
Mara Celes
Re: Yay!
Date: 2003-02-19 09:19 am (UTC)Yeah, I think that's me, too. I wrote a nice note politely declining, even though I was very flattered they asked me.